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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Apr 5, 2006 10:00pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

Feel free to log descriptive error reports on the problematic ones you spot, thanks! (You probably already are FP, but here's a heads up that anyone else can do that too.) The "report errors" link on an itme is toward the lower left.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-04-06 05:00:38

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Poster: FP Date: Apr 5, 2006 11:22pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

Thanks for the work you and others do here! This flood of miscellaneous content can't be making your jobs at the archive any easier.

Whenever I see a posted movie that may be iffy, I do the REPORT ERRORS thing. But there are so many new daily entries these dasy, there simply isn't time to casually check all of them. I grab a batch at random once or twice a week.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Apr 5, 2006 11:35pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

Even a little bit helps, thanks for the extra eyeballs! :) Similar things happen in Open Source Audio. I think it's mainly that some patron uploaders just don't understand the concept at first.

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Poster: tambora Date: Apr 26, 2006 2:08pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

Yeah, but would it really be too much to make this place a little bit more like Wikipedia? If the consensus of the people coming to this site is that the video shouldn't be there, we should be able to take it down.

The internet is full of irony. Wikipedia doesn't seem like it should work, and yet, for the most part, it does. The community, maintains standards and self-regulates. But here, where the community has no ability to self-regulate beyond writing reviews (that is, the responsible ones can't un-post stuff like pirated copies of Scary Movie 4), the amount of content and worthlessness of content is running out of control. I put two films on this site three years ago when it meant something, but now I wouldn't even consider doing the same thing.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Apr 26, 2006 11:55pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

make this place a little bit more like Wikipedia? If the consensus of the people coming to this site is that the video shouldn't be there, we should be able to take it down.

Interesting proposition! But if *any* patron could take down content, I wonder what would happen to a lot of the political material that ends up in the collection? And musical tastes differ so much too, I wonder what would happen to Open Source Audio if random patrons acted on their personal tastes?

I put two films on this site three years ago when it meant something, but now I wouldn't even consider doing the same thing.

I've seen that same outcome mentioned in criticism levelled at the current Wikipedia- though in that case where experts in their fields don't want to contribute because of an uninformed readership editing away at their once-solid contributions.

Personally I do like Wikipedia though, as I like this place. They're both different experiments in progress!

EDIT, forgot to add:
community has no ability to self-regulate beyond writing reviews (that is, the responsible ones can't un-post stuff like pirated copies

Please, please use the Error Report function, not the reviews, when you spot a content problem like that (pirated stuff, porn etc) so curators can see it and track it. Reviews are much less easily noticed by curators. The link to report is in the lower-left region of any item. Thanks for any help in this way!

(Of course if anyone wants to warn people away from simply low quality/dumb stuff, as you know reviews are theoretically great for that- that's the "consensus" feature we do have here at the moment... Admittedly it runs into this paradoxic effect you mentioned, "Reviews increase downloads. It's a fact. Especially negative ones, it seems.")

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-04-27 06:55:01

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffsimon c Date: Apr 27, 2006 2:02am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: It's getting to be like YOUTUBE in here...

Yeah, to back up Diana and make it clear, we're doing our best to regulate the content, and in recent weeks, imho, it's been doing better, but we just found a curation loophole that we're closing up, and I don't feel there's any way to limit _valid_ uploads.

However, I would love to see better voting for good material. I keep thinking about setting up an unofficial Internet Archive 'best of archive.org' weblog - anyone interested in contributing?